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Discussing A Song of Ice and Fire
summersdream
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Disclaimer: I am not GRRM or making moneys from this, I'm just here for the lulz.


In which there are dwarves, dragons and dimwits all dancing like crazyCollapse )

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summersdream
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summersdream
Well some of you are crazies and asked if I was ever going to do this... and lo, I did. >.> I make no promises as to quality of recap or humor, so read at your own risk.


the long-awaited dance, in which you learn the other half of what you already know: which is probably nothing.Collapse )

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possum_baby
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Vague AFFC minor character spoiler...Collapse )

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linndechir
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linndechir
Sorry for the crossposting spam if some of you have already seen this on other comms. :) Just promoting a few things ...

- sign-ups for the second round of the fic and art exchange on got_exchange are open now. You can sign up here until December 9th (Friday). It's both show and book verse, all characters, pairings and genres are welcome. More information can be found here. Or you can just join the comm to read and see the stuff from last round (here's the masterlist).

- we've also had a comment fic meme going on got_exchange for the past two weeks or so. There are already almost 30 fills about various characters/pairings, many other prompts waiting to be filled, and new prompts are always welcome. So even if you have no interest in participating in the exchange, maybe you'd like to drop by the comment fic meme. It would be great if we kept this thing going for a bit longer. So far it has been great fun.

Thanks for your attention, and I'm hoping to see some of you around. :)

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linndechir
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linndechir
got_exchange is organising a fanfic and fanart exchange for both the books and the show. Fanfic and fanart for all characters and pairings are welcome. You can sign up here until September 2nd. More information can be found here. If you'd like to participate, or if you just want to see the art, read the fics and maybe comment, please join the community. :)

I hope posting this is allowed here. There were posts promoting other communities, so I assumed it would be okay. If not, please tell me and I'll delete this.

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matitablu
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matitablu
Do you like Jaime? Do you like Brienne? even better - do you like Jaime and Brienne together? If you answered "yes" to any of these questions, here's something you might enjoy:



All types of fanworks are welcome - fic, art, graphics, you name it - and so are comments and squee! Head over here for more info and spread the word!

summersdream, if this isn't allowed just tell me and I'll take it off

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sixth_light
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sixth_light
I've been having a few thoughts about the use of "moon tea" in ASoIaF, and why I think Martin hasn't thought the concept through very well. Essentially, moon tea appears to be a reliable abortifacent which can be used at any time in pregnancy. If used early on - i.e., drunk when a woman might be pregnant - it appears to have few to no side effects, based on Jon's discussion with the wildlings about not wanting to get Ygritte pregnant. Their attitude is essentially "if she wants it, she'll keep it, if she doesn't, it's no trouble to get rid of it". Lysa's experience seems to indicate it's more problematic if used later in pregnancy, but that's what you'd expect with a late-term miscarriage. (It doesn't make any medical sense for her forced abortion to have caused her to miscarry later in life, by the way, unless she was quite far along and it was a traumatic and damaging miscarriage; abortions usually don't cause sterility, though a lot of people seem to feel they should, metaphorically.)

In the real world, though, there was no such reliable and relatively safe chemical abortifacent available to women until very recently. I really don't think Martin has thought through how the availability of contraception and safe abortion has changed women's position in society, and how moon tea would change women's position in Westeros. At a minimum, virginity should be far less prized by nobles - it's not difficult to guarantee your wife isn't coming into the marriage pregnant with someone else's child, which is the basic reason behind the women-must-be-virgins bit. The ability to limit childbearing gives women a massive economic boost - it would decrease the number of women forced to sex work, for starters. Or maybe it's just not that available to most women? But if the wildlings have it, you'd think it would be.

Which brings up another thing that doesn't make sense; we don't see anywhere like enough women who aren't nobles or whores (and the odd innkeeper). If this is a medieval-Europe-style society, there should be women working in all the major trades; powerful septas, as well as septons; at least some female academics and theologians; women who have inherited workshops and companies from dead husbands and fathers. There aren't enough ruling ladies, really, either; we only know of four outside of Dorne (Arwyn Oakheart, Anya Waynwood, Maege Mormont...is Lyessa Flint a lady in her own right, too?) when the attrition rate among men in wartime should leave a lot more. And even for those with husbands, being a noble lady, should involve being able to do a hell of a lot more than look pretty and sew - Catelyn is depicted as having had special training because she was the heir apparent to Riverrun until Edmure was born, but every highborn girl should be able to run a large estate and defend it if her husband is away, including making military decisions.

I just feel like Martin has gone "right, medieval times, sexism" but not actually thought through the mechanics of why women were restricted in what they could do or how and why that changed. Or how involved they actually were in medieval life. It's not like the Leaders of the Patriarchy sat around coming up with ways to Oppress Teh Womenz; there has to be logic behind this sort of society. (Religious texts and their opinions on women's places play a BIG role in this sort of thing, too, so I'd love to know what the scriptures of the Seven have to say about it.)

Anyway, those are my thoughts; I'd be really interested to hear if anyone else has comments or wildly differing opinions on this!

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otakukeith
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otakukeith
http://io9.com/5801303/what-if-game-of-thrones-was-really-a-game-of-monopoly

I like the Chance and Community Chest card examples given in the article ("You are betrothed to a handsome prince. Collect 100 gold coins from each player"; "Your wolf bites an obnoxious prince..."), but the best one has to be in the comments: "You are humping your brother. Lose one turn". :D

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angerfish
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angerfish

asoiaf_lims is an icon challenge community for HBO's Game of Thrones series. These challenges will determine the Last Icon Maker Standing (hence: LIMS!) Everyone is welcome to participate, no matter your skill level or graphic making program. The sign-up post is over here and the more detailed rules are over here.
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redcandle17
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redcandle17
Are you an artist who'd like to win a t-shirt proclaiming support for your favorite House? Enter my new ASoIaF art contest! All you have to do is create new artwork of a scene depicting at least two female characters interacting with each other, and you could win a $25 HBO gift card to purchase that t-shirt!
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